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August 20th 2004 -  Courier Mail Australia 

After achieving his musical ambitions, Darren Hayes
will return home to be a dad, writes Rodney Chester

For a man who has ridden the wave of pop stardom
to international fame, former Savage Garden performer
Darren Hayes's dreams are remarkably ordinary. 
"My dream is I want to be a father,'' he says, speaking
to The Courier-Mail from a hotel room in London to
promote his new upcoming album The Tension and The Spark. 

"I want to have kids and I would raise them in Australia.'' 

"I think I'm ready for a change now. I got myself out of
my country at the peak of my celebrity, and I hate using
that word, and I did that to keep my feet on the ground. 
"I didn't really know how to cope with it. I'd spent all my
life in Brisbane and suddenly I couldn't go to the mall
without feeling like I was under a spotlight. 

"The truth is I'm actually quite a shy person. I'm a 
performer, and when you put me on stage I'm someone
else, I become the complete cliche of what you think
an entertainer should be. I'm an egomaniac, I'm big and
bright and bold and I want your attention. But that 
compensates for the other person. 

"I get home to Australia more than you would know, but
I just do it quietly. His long-term ambition sounds simple
enough, but there is something he has to do before he
leaves San Francisco, which has been his base for the past
five years, and heads home to Queensland. 

"That is ultimately where I want to be, I just think at the
moment I can't even dream about that part of my life
because I'm so married and committed to at least this
record and really making a mark for myself in this part of my
life.'' 

It is only 8am in London, but already Hayes is into his fifth
hour of press interviews promoting his album and the
single Popular, having only arrived in the city from Oslo just
the day before.  "I don't think I've worked this hard since my
first ever promo trip with Savage Garden,'' he admits. "It's just
been a blur.''  So, why do it, when the royalties from the songs
he wrote with his Savage Garden partner Daniel Jones still
ensure that he can lead a lifestyle that "comfortable'' probably
doesn't come close to describing? 

"It's beyond money. I've made enough money,'' Hayes says.
"I'm proud of this and I'm proud of where I'm going and what
I have to say. "Without dissing my own past, my last album 
(Spin ) wasn't the high point in my life. I was so exhausted, 
I had come off the back of Savage Garden and literally ran 
straight into a studio. 

"I was out promoting that record and I really wasn't that
happy. I knew that I had an album like the one I've just
made in me, and I knew that it was a much more personal
record and a much more sincere album.  "This record is 
painfully autobiographical, and in terms of musically how
much I've changed and evolved on this record, I'm proud
of it. I would have no sleep tonight if it meant I could sit 
down and talk to people about it because I feel like I'm
18 again. 

"And that feeling is like I have to fight for the music and
fight for what I believe in.''  The music he is fighting for is,
in parts, pretty grim or at least gritty. One track, Unlovable, 
which details his response to the break-up of a relationship
says "you make me feel like my father never loved me, you 
make me feel like my mother abandoned me''. 

"Popular is definitely the lightest track on the record, at
first glance, because the rest of the album is quite moody
and emotional,'' he says.  "It spans my life as a child all 
the way to relationships today, and it's not always in a 
happy light. I'm admitting that I've been sad before, I'm 
admitting that I have definitely had demons that I've dealt
with in my life. 

"But Popular was my way of saying `how do you get the 
most personal record of your life on the radio'. Look at
the state of fame, the state of media, the state of our 
obsession with pop culture and how far we're willing to go
as a culture to be famous. 

"It's almost like killing off the pop star in many ways 
and saying `I applied for the job of hero and I took it 
not realising it's designed to self-destruct'.  "When you
fall from that pedestal it really hurts, but it's also 
amazing to be on this side of the experience, and I
would never apply for the job of hero again. 

"In general Popular is really about our society. I 
meet kids these days, 18-year-olds, who ask me
how to be famous. We have TV shows where anyone
can juggle a carrot and suddenly they're famous for 
10 minutes. It's a vocation now, that people train for, 
just to be a celebrity, and I think that people don't
realise it's designed to self-destruct.'' 

Hayes felt that destruction when his first solo album, Spin, 
sold two million records but achieved greater success
out of Australia than in his home market. He was plagued 
by stories that were not so concerned about his music
as they were his hair colour. 

"The experience of that album almost broke me,'' Hayes
says candidly. "It was likely a trial through fire, and I'm
so proud of the fact that I just kept walking, I kept my
head up high.  "On that record, I underestimated the 
general public, I underestimated myself because I 
thought I could skate through that experience unscathed. 
I thought I could just go through the motions, I could hit
all the right notes, write the pop songs, do everything to 
the best because I'm a perfectionist but I didn't really 
open up."

"I learnt a big lesson. First of all, any bit of arrogance
I had about myself was just completely whipped out of
me. That's what you've got to love about Australia 
and the Australian media, you just get slapped right 
down to size if you think you're going to be Mr Big Shoes.'' 
While Hayes is seeking to connect with his audience
in a new way, he does not want to shun his past, describing
his Savage Garden years as "such a happy and beautiful
experience of my life''.  "I was so proud last week,'' Hayes
says. "I got an e-mail from Daniel who said `congrats on
making the album you've always wanted to make'. '' 

When Savage Garden came to an end, Hayes says he
gave up trying to explain to people that the creative boys
from Logan were still friends. "It's difficult when you leave
a known entity. It's like a public divorce really, and the
kids never want to see the parents apart,'' he says. 

"But throughout it all, we have the utmost respect for
each other. His opinion is still the one that makes my
knees shake. If I don't know what Daniel thinks of my
record, I don't know if it's good. "He's just like my big
brother in some ways.'' 

And there are some things that he can still learn from
"big brother'' Jones, who lives in Brisbane with his fiancee,
Hi-5 star Kathleen de Leon, a performer who Hayes says
is a far bigger celebrity than either Savage Garden
member to many young Australians. 

"I don't always want to be this busy. I think Daniel has
the right idea,'' Hayes says. "And when I'm ready to do
that, I would want to come home.''



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